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BRK7_2's avatar

Well, interesting thought, which maybe points to why many of the ‘experts’ paraded for us were veterinarians (VandenBossche, Burla…).

However, the viral person to person contagion spread claims are decidedly debunked by a number of scientists who have sifted through years of data and demographics by now, and have found NO indication that this alleged air transmittable disease has acted as such. One of them Prof. Denis Rancourt. There has been no coherent spatial “spread” prior to the jab release. There have been localized outbreaks, heavily publicized, and much carnage in hospitals and senior homes suspiciously pointing to ‘interventions’. So we are back to the asymptomatic spread theory. Which is a medical unicorn. Anything burly enough to jump people at long distance through air transmission and invade is not going to sit quietly for any length of time. It is a dead end.

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Suzanne O'Keeffe's avatar

🎯

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Jim Haslam's avatar

Major Murphy figured this out, and Robert Malone posted his DoD whistleblower letter:

https://www.malone.news/p/sars-cov-wiv

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David S's avatar

Malone is not a reliable source of information. That being said, any documents he posts might be reliable. I just wouldnt even listen to his opinion other than to know where the Trojan horse he is riding is headed.

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David S's avatar

I read that link and see how it says basically the same thing as the guy Jon interviewed. That would explain how I got kidney cancer and my brother had heart problems a few years ago, in the middle of the pandemic. My cancer took a long time to grow. They really don’t know how long it was there but it was larger than a softball or a kidney. I had the surgery this March. Well our mother died of turbo cancer after the very first booster. So it makes sense that we inherited some trait that makes us more susceptible to it. She got the shots but neither my brother nor I ever did. Not even got tested. We are both around 60. The demographic that got the most sick. Late 50s white guys were hard hit.

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Leener's avatar

I think it's more likely that it was a bioweapon that was leaked from a Wuhan lab that is known for doing gain of function research.

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Mooon's avatar

It was absolutely a bioweapon. Otherwise, why would the US military be involved in its development? Also, why are they still covering up the fact that it is not only not safe and effective but, has killed millions?

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Nancy Parsons's avatar

Makes perfect sense. The people doing this are truly evil.

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Te Reagan's avatar

My whole town was sick at the end of 2019 and no one was interested in finding out why. I asked the Heath dept about it because many had already received their annual flu vaccine. Nurse shrugged her shoulders and said it was probably type A flu because they didn’t vaccinate for that.

I was appalled. Whole town sick all at same time, and the Heath department didn’t care to investigate any further, which shows me that the whole system isn’t about finding root causes. System no better than the DMV.

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Pierre Brangére's avatar

great briefing with a completly other point of view, thanks for sharing, from old old germany, pete

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The Green Hornet's avatar

Exactly correct.

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David S's avatar

I found an interesting article on this subject.

https://thevaccinereaction.org/2022/07/the-threat-of-self-spreading-vaccines/

Reading the RFK statement about the future of vaccinations I noticed some strong similarities in terminology. Is this kind of whole virus vaccine that RFK envisions very different from the self spreading vaccines being developed? Or is that exactly what they are working on? The two things sound alarmingly similar if not the same. That also fits with what your guest was saying and sort of ties it all together in a simple way.

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David S's avatar

You know what’s so funny about that is that when all of the big pandemic crunch was first coming down, there was a story out of China claiming that the US military brought the virus from a lab in North Carolina. There was a story about it that I read. Conservatives dismissed it as propaganda. But I figured it was true. Everything was too neatly meshed. It just had the ring of truth to it.

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Anthony L Porter's avatar

There was no virus or deadly 'pandemic', not even an epidemic, other than the rapidly spreading pandemic of FEAR propaganda.

This so called 'gain of function' nonsense was (and still is), just a diversion which also added 'credibility' to the whole carefully crafted scamdemic LIE. If there ever was any virus, it was just a typical common cold or flue type of respiratory illness, generically termed 'corona virus' but hyped up with scary new names, i.e. Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 and scary sounding scientific jargon (which almost nobody understands) to maintain a high level of fear among the terrified and gullible masses; spread by the government's LYING fear propagandists: the mainstream media - mainly television.

Best vaccine for the feared nonexistent pandemic and any future 'pandemics': Turn off your TV's (and radios & hysterical social media channels) and leave them off. Then apply common sense and start to THINK. Critically, instead of hysterically...

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Linda wallack's avatar

so, a "vaccine" was "released" and aimed via air born? Hum. I guess I'll have to listen to see what the definition is for "vaccine"? Do they mean, "bio-hazard", or "poison" , or filth in earth, or some substance that causes sickness in man?

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Ron's avatar

You guys are getting close. But you're dancing all around the real issue. The spike protein is a combination of different aerosolized venoms - 37 different types according to one Italian study. Watch every video you can find on Dr Brian Ardis stepping through the patents and research documents to make his case.

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Polemarchus's avatar

The step Baric took to genetically engineer mice with human lung tissue in order to find a coronavirus that would infect them would seem to suggest the target was human beings.

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The Beach Is My Bliss's avatar

This feels like a limited hangout to me.

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Eric's avatar

Weird never had anything! Baffled I’m alive! Lol

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Sue's avatar

Created virus, yes. Designed for animals, no. Covid-19 has HIV furin cleavage (human), use of spike protein for human coronavirus, SARS itself was lab created for humans. Michael Yeadon, retired Phizer VP in the UK, came out on day one saying this was designed to kill (humans). We now know that Univ NC Chapel Hill actually created the virus, trained a couple Wuhan folks in CRISPR gene editing and gave them viral samples to take home. Oh woops, we're not supposed to be doing gain of function in the US, so let's give it to China and let them finish it for us.

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Anthony L Porter's avatar

I think you need to read Mike Yeadon's posts a little more carefully Sue...

He clearly sates there was/is no respiratory virus. other than the virus of fear propaganda:

Here's one of his many musings on the topic and it seems, like myself and 1000's of others, you have a lot of respect for Dr Yeadon so, it's unlikely you'll dispute what he said:

https://substack.com/@drmikeyeadon/note/c-138973017

Of course there are many more posts on his Substack where I don't think he even mentions 'gain of function' but does talk about how the whole scamdemic lie was concocted and WHY it was.

Also see this Substack (which mike referred to in one of his posts) which clearly explains how the the so called Covid pandemic and others were planned and are obviously 100% FAKE and nothing but fear porn.

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/the-covert-event-201-pacific-eclipse?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

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Linda Meads's avatar

Did China finish it? How does this factor in?

A pathogen was designed, weaponised, aerosolised and selectively deployed worldwide from early 2019 onwards.

Heres how…..

https://www.jenniferzengblog.com/home/2023/6/27/transcript-i-was-given-4-strains-of-coronavirus-to-select-the-most-infectious-wiv-researcher-shao-chao-says.

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Sue's avatar

Tom Renz, attorney, has medical transcripts from a veteran who was experimented on using "Covid-19" shots in 2015. He filed court papers for his client to protect his identity. Yes they were working on it in 2015 and prior. THE VACCINE IS NOT NEW!!!

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Mooon's avatar

Back in 2014, most of the colleges were showing a presentation of Obama taking about a possible pandemic of a pathogen called Covid-19. It’s crazy how short people’s memory has become.

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Mooon's avatar

China was the scapegoat for DARPA and the pharma giants.

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Linda Meads's avatar

Seen this? I shared and filed her original posts and interviews where she blamed it all on the CCP. Those didn’t seem to get much traction. Then she put out a couple more ‘warnings’ saying the CCP would release haemorrhagic fever at an organised Games, and lost me. Double agent, it now seems.

https://substack.com/@denisrancourt/note/c-143189316?r=10r23v&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

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Brian  Klunder's avatar

Self-spreading and self-assembling ....A transhumanist dream come true!

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Mo Khan's avatar

He said a lot of incorrect statements. It did kill until it mutated enough to spread but killed the same number because it infected som many more.

It was an absolute pandemic,

-it was a vaccine is not likely and shows a lack of understanding in what vaccines are.

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