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Prayer Warrior Paisley's avatar

I live in a rural area. The spray IS NOT coming from jets. The grid lines that these planes put down are done at lower altitudes than the planes coming over our area.

They are laid down at 10 -15,000 feet in a grid pattern dispersing slowly until they, after about 3 days or so they settle down to earth.

I've been outside late at night with the dogs and in the beam of a flashlight saw what looks like glitter raining down after their chemical "clouds" make it to the surface.

As they disperse, they cool the air so that moisture in the air forms the gray hazy clouds that block the sun.

I've read they are dumping aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's, barium and strontium which are known carcinogens none of which is at natural or normal levels.

Whatever trash they are dumping into our skies it is not natural or healthy.

To me, it seems like they are attempting to kill the vegetation and change the climate from lush forest to desert...maybe to drive people into their 15 minute PRISONS I mean cities?

Dr. Kevin Stillwagon's avatar

Yes, "they", whoever that is, want us in 15 minute smart cities and want to restrict our travel. All in the name of carbon reduction. There is a move in the EU already to restrict intra-border air travel and move to high-speed rail service instead.

Hugh Boone's avatar

RFK jr is not saying CO2 is behind geoengineering. He's talking about the metals in the fuel. It's not soot (black carbon) either as that actually disrupts cirrus cloud formation.

Eddy's avatar

The soot particulates get coated by graphene oxide and Sulphur dioxide as part of the combustion process. The sulphur is what condenses the water vapour, besides the aromatics in the fuel, to cause the contrails.

Hugh Boone's avatar

Those are layers of oxidized carbon from the combustion process, not true coatings. The end product is still hydrophobic. Sulphates are everywhere in the upper atmosphere (thanks volcanoes!) but barely help cirrus form. What causes the AVIATION induced cirrus, that contrails are, is jet fuel ash - Aluminum (Al), Barium (Ba), Vanadium (V), Iron (Fe), Nickel (Ni), Titanium (Ti), Lead (Pb), and Strontium (Sr).

Eddy's avatar

"Jet fuel Ash" also referred to as Soot? Sans the lead as it's specifically refined out. Yes, Aircraft emissions are not the primary source of pollutants in the atmosphere, just the ones talked about when considering contrails.

As for coating, can that not also be a layer that surrounds something?

The primary contributor to the formation of contrails are the H+ radicals.

"On the potential importance of sulfur-induced activation of soot particles in nascent jet aircraft exhaust plumes"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0169809597000707

"Electron Microscopic Study of Soot Particulate Matter Emissions from Aircraft Turbine Engines"

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/es501809b

"Soot and Metal Particles"

https://archive.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/sres/aviation/index.php?idp=35

You'll have to use your own resources to get the full papers. Unfortunately Substack does not support uploading files.

Hugh Boone's avatar

Ash is not soot. Ash is the non-combusted, non-carbonaceous component of jet fuel. Your paper is obsolete. Jets certainly produce soot but soot is hydrophobic, so in fact, black carbon can suppress contrail formation, especially in early stages when vapor needs condensation nuclei. The contrails, contrail cirrus and aviation induced cirrus clouds are forming DESPITE soot (black carbon) not because of it. It tends to impair formation unless coated by sulphate but then it's effectively a sulphate particle. Sulphate is very abundant but nowhere near as efficient an IN as metallic minerals. Cziczo et al. (2013): Soot found in only ~3% of cirrus ice residuals — despite being abundant in the upper troposphere. It only becomes this marginally effective when coated with sulphates or organics, which essentially turn it into a different particle in terms of behaviour. You are holding the wrong cards.

Dee's avatar

Nah, there have been people going to court and testifying. Saying things like I have been a pilot for 35 years, my grand-daddy was a pilot for 48 years. He taught me to fly a plane when I was 16. I have been a member of Federal Aviation Administration. I served as Vice President for 20 years, and I am here to testify today that is not just regular contrails in the sky. I call Kennedy's B.S.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Correct. Mr. Kennedy is ducking for cover. Geoengineering programs have been military policy objective since 1947, and funding has been approved by Senate and Congressional vote for decades and decades. None of this is an unknown quantity. >>>

Another 740 page reason why no one in Federal or State agencies wants to talk about the "unusual" weather... >>> Weather modification: programs, problems, policy, and potential

May, 1978 >>> https://ufdc.ufl.edu/AA00025909/00001/thumbs

Krissy's avatar

Hes a illuminati bloodline kennedy

Hes a puppet

MellowKat's avatar

Cop out. Not a surprise.

Don’t forget, other countries have used their Air Force to modify the weather. Do we really believe that our bloated, globally-dominant military isn’t doing it to us right now and haven’t been for decades? That would be foolish.

But now, the pressure is off the military. “It’s all commercial flights! Look over here look over here!” What is it, Bobby? DARPA or “jet fuel?”

So what is the solution when we blame jet fuel?

By less? Pay more to fly? Swap out all of the fleet to bio fuel?

This is a crafty game they are playing with us.

Remember, they’re trying to make us believe that the only Weather Modification the United States has been doing is precipitation enhancement and snow pack augmentation (according to some decepticons). That’s bullshit.

By blaming commercial flights, they are able to successfully get us to on-board with their agenda to fly less or transition all airlines to sustainable aviation fuel, which fits in line with their goals.

They get to side step addressing the very real covert programs that we have been impacted by for a long time.

Now, we are all going to pay the price because we all think it’s “plane farts.”

Pathetic.

NE Garden Guru's avatar

Cant even get info on the planes anymore

They dont even show up on flight radar

Military..

MellowKat's avatar

They all know we’re onto them.

JamesDuff's avatar

BS on engine exhaust! BS on Jim Lee. Whatever they are dumping it kills the blue skies, the sunny days. It’s demonic. Killing the Sun and all life how utterly arrogant and worth a good firing squad. Seems to me it’s from holding tanks and nozzles. One jet on tarmac engines off was spewing huge cloud of white gases on you tube. Explain that.

If you think it’s from jet engines. In any case it needs to stop. Movie 🎥 Frankenskies is historical of what they’ve been doing in the skies.

Medical Truth Podcast's avatar

I believe that Kennedy is a puppet Globalist along with Trump!! I do not trust the DemonRats, RepubTurds, Kennedy, Trump or anyone in Politics!! Poli-Tics (Tics = Blood Sucking Insects)!!

Dr. Kevin Stillwagon's avatar

Having been an airline pilot for 33 years, I can confirm that jet engine manufacturers warrant their engines to the airlines that purchase them. If anything goes wrong with an engine, one of the first things they check is the fuel for contamination. There are very tight tolerances on any metal content in jet fuel, and airlines are constantly checking what goes into their jets, so they don’t lose that warranty. Jet fuel has gotten cleaner over the years, not dirtier. In fact, sulfur content has significantly dropped over the years. There is a certified additive list for Jet A-1 fuel, according to ASTM D1655 (Standard Specification for Aviation Turbine Fuels) and Def Stan 91-091 (used by NATO and much of the world). These additives are strictly regulated — only specific types and concentrations are allowed.

The problem people see is that passenger jet contrails do expand more now than they did years ago due to high bypass engines vs pure turbojet engines that were used decades ago. The contrails can, under certain atmospheric conditions, form clouds that can last all day. This is by definition, geoengineering, because it does affect the amount of solar radiation that reaches the earth, and the amount of long infrared radiation that escapes the earth. Passenger jets can be forced to fly at altitudes that will either produce contrails or prohibit contrails on purpose, controlling the outcome, but this is not being done. Right now, it’s totally random, at least from passenger jets. I have no idea what the military is up to. https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/look-up-in-the-sky

Hugh Boone's avatar

“Diesel fuel and airplane jet fuel contain about 0.01% ash; the US EPA standard is 0.02% ash. That means for every 1,000 lb (about 140 gallon) of jet fuel combusted, about 1 lb is released as submicron particles mostly at 30,000-45,000 ft elevation. Each submicron particle consists of only a few dozen molecules. The water vapor from combustion condenses and freezes onto the particles from combustion, which, after a plane length, agglomerate to become large enough, 0.4-0.7 micron (millionth of a meter), to refract sunlight and become visible as contrails that spread out to become veil-like clouds over large areas of the sky.”

As confirmed by the engineer Willem Post.

About 0.045kg of ash is produced for every 450kg of fuel burned. It may not seem much but

that's around 1.713 × 10¹⁰ particles/m.

How many jets doing that? Enough to over-seed the upper atmosphere on a persistent basis.

NE Garden Guru's avatar

Uranium

Insects

Smartdust

Nano QDots

Sulfur dioxide

Parasites

Etc

Healthy Wellness's avatar

And sarin, semen and anthrax.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

if he had been here last year, he would have talked different. But well no - he would talk the same because they Have him. I don't know how, be it dirt, bribe, threat - but he now sits in the chair and he turned around completely. Fear for his life? he should have known that.

Brian  Klunder's avatar

I guess we need to limit air travel too.

Based upon that conclusion!

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I am not flying anymore. Regarding the numbers of aircraft accidents, helicopter pilots neglecting safety instructions, and the pilots that are still flying commercial planes all injected. No thanks.

NE Garden Guru's avatar

Plus the bs RealID global digital control over your sovereign biometrics via facial scan??

NE Garden Guru's avatar

Cant fly even domestic now without your jail card in tow

The Watchman's avatar

So Bobby says it's coming out of the jet fuel and not from spraying.. Jet fuels aren't made from the ingredients found in chemtrails. Most jet fuels are primarily Paraffins and Naphthalenes with Toluene added and Benzenes (https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp121-c4.pdf) and not Aluminium, Barium, Iron and etc. which some have found in residue from chemtrails.

Who is Bobby trying to cover for? DARPA perhaps.

Linking today @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/

NE Garden Guru's avatar

Remember when he was antivax and ran on that? Yeah...now hes pushing the gd measels vaxx. Hes DOA

Ron's avatar

It's all the above. They are adding the chemicals and metals to Jet fuel to hide their activities. The nozzles on commercial planes have been photographed by passengers and ground crews so they had to find another way to do the same thing. They also have black project planes with nozzles to inject other types of chemicals and/or biologics into the atmosphere. Evidenced by the recent strange fog phenomena in parts of the country. DARPA is involved, so Trump needs to go after them.

NE Garden Guru's avatar

Like the "strange" particulates flund across New England on 4/28??? Gee wonder WTF they are???

FreedomFighter's avatar

Call me skeptical. I still see actual contrails-- they hardly spread and dissipate within a couple of minutes. So, it doesn't appear that jet fuel has been changed substantially. What we see is more than likely the result of aerial spraying devices. The fact that Kennedy "thinks" that DARPA is responsible for the geoengineered chemtrails pretty well confirms fears that the DOD and the government (enslavement) are trying to poison and/or kill us.

NE Garden Guru's avatar

Hes playing opposum because hes been compromised via his sex and heroin addiction past

Get to DC...get your ass kicked in

FreedomFighter's avatar

He is a Kennedy. It's not like he didn't know what he was getting himself into in the swamp. That statement of his was rather weak. Did he think the medical freedom folks would buy it? If Bobby can't handle being HHS Sec., how on earth would he have managed as president?

Carlo Weeks's avatar

I agree with Jim Lee, there’s no need for independent sprayer apparatuses attached to planes in order to cause the sun blocking cirrus clouds that blight our skies.

Kennedy, when he says “a lot of it is now is coming out of the jet fuel” and “Those materials are put in jet fuel” is also correct.

Without a doubt, fuel additives have become increasingly more polluting, by design.

If Kennedy is serious about finding out who’s putting unnecessary and undesirable polluting additives into aviation fuel, “and holding them accountable”, he needs look closely at the aviation fuel manufacturers.

I did a simple search in Yahoo Finance and Nasdac.com, and soon found some familiar names, Blackrock Inc, Vanguard Inc, State Street Corporation, Berkshire Hathaway etc.

Regulators also have a hand in the approval of aircraft fuels, but to date have not protected the public from the liquid filth authorised for use in aviation.

There needs to be a sense of urgency in cleaning up the fuel supply chain, not only for aviation but also for shipping and industry.

There are inherent dangers in giving one Nation/Super Power, the authority to use lethal force on countries perceived to be violating standards. Not least because malintent has been displayed on a number of occasions by certain Presidents, “he who controls the weather, controls the world”. A nation or Super Power given the responsibility for policing the use of weather modification, would in reality have control the weather.

I envisage an alternative to centralised control would consist of a procedure along these lines:

Once the fuel sources have been cleaned up, enforcement could be diffused, making all countries responsible for their own emissions.

• Fuel sample tests taken for all flight and shipping departures (with supplier details) for each sector it travels.

• Samples, taken under independent supervision.

• Results should be a matter of public record.

• If testing reveals unusual additives, appropriate fines could be levied or damages sought by all countries affected by the violation.

• Flight routing should also be optimised to avoid the conditions ripe for persistent cirrus cloud formation, rather than to produce them.

Jean's avatar

More obfuscating and cover-up by RFK, Jr. I knew we were in trouble when he started talking about the food dye instead of stopping the deadly mRNA jab. Same crap different administration.

Michael P's avatar

What are the all white 747’s with no numbers or markings anywhere on the planes flying into and out of Chicago O’Hare all the time?

Please explain on Flight Radar24 there will be 15-20 flights flying overhead at altitude and only one or two are leaving chem trails? Please explain why we’ve watched the chem trails be turned on then off producing gaps? Were the engines not getting fuel? No way. Please explain why many times only the east bound flights are chem trailing and not the west bound or north-south?

My take is they are trying to play the plausible deniability game. Don’t fall for it.