But a careful reading of the piece does reveal an emphasis on these points:
—Measles is rarely deadly. Vanishingly rarely.
—By 1960, 98% of alleged measles deaths were conquered by sanitation and nutrition
—Vitamin A prevents measles. (This will set off the anti-Vitamin A factions.)
—Vaccination is a personal choice for parents
—Vaccines should never be forced or mandated
—He’s taking the situation seriously, etc.
This is what I find to be the core statement of the piece:
"But anybody who wants to persuade their followers that they were right to distrust him, is free to do that.
What I see is the needle moved a little bit, toward a holistic view of how disease happens. In all my years of being caught in this nasty, deadly morass, this war, I’ve never seen that from a public health official. '
A fever usually accompanies the rash, and often a runny nose as well, but yes, measles is a mild childhood disease. When measles vaccines were first introduced, many medical experts and physicians objected, since it was 'a mild childhood disease'.
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Del Bigtree shares more measles facts on The Highwire-
Measles can be more serious in adults who never had measles as children, and don't have the lifetime immunity that actually getting and recovering from measles confers. Since measles can cause birth defects when expectant mothers who are not immune get the disease during pregnancy, this is a concern- eliminated by allowing children to experience the normal childhood diseases.
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Some small percent of people will die, 'with' if not 'from' measles, and every preventable death is a tragedy. Yet the vaccines kill and injure people, too. Del Bigtree explains that there are other benefits to people getting and recovering from measles- including a significantly lower rate of cardio-vascular disease (heart attack, stoke) - the # 1 killer in the US - than those who never got measles.
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See the link above for details, with references included.
Well said. People are freaking out at the article, but Kennedy is just speaking the truth—the complete truth, and not just what fits his agenda. What a breath of fresh air!
Celia is making excuses for someone she has fawned over for years.
Kennedy's op-ed was grossly irresponsible (that's being charitable) as many facts are still rolling in about the child's death in Texas and as anyone with half a brain already knew the "official" story is a pack of lies.
There was no measles death nor is there any outbreak. It's the Pharma lie machine using the same playbook of fear-mongering that they have used for decades.
You really have to have a faulty immune system or some chronic disease coupled with a bad medical system and inept care to die of measles. I think you are on target with your take on this. We should all be suspicious when it comes to what we hear about vaccines. How quickly we forget.
What happened to the safety aspect of the vaccines? Thought he was going to look into that. Sounds like more of the same to me
They just had a lot of free vaccines given and now all of these cases in Texas all in the same area. Safe huh
One of the problems is vaccine shedding.
Same with the covid jab
How many people get sick because of shedding?
How do you know who has received any vaccine?
I sat next to person who had received the covid jab the previous day and I was sick as a dog the next day.
I did not know he received the covid jab
As my wife says we leave our cave so little now just to avoid people, it borders on ridiculous, but I guess as long as needed deliveries never stop we can stay in our own little world.
I’ll ditch it - bitchy snark from the peanut gallery highly unlikely to have put herself on the line as others of greater stature have. Back to kindergarten P. B. M.
As an admitted pessimist, I have to say it's always been about power and money. People quote George Carlin a lot, rightly so. "It's a big club and you ain't in it."
I don't think it's all that big, but it is a club.
Kid comes in w/pneumonia/RSV diagnosis has allergic reactions to drugs and/or vaccines given in hospital that worsen respiratory issues- related rashes are misdiagnosed as measles.
"She died from measles" claim is the cover-up for the treatment mistakes doctors/nurses made that killed the child. This lie not only gets the doctors/hospital/medical system off the hook but serves as a valuable PR tool for the vaxx industry.
Anyone who thinks they wouldn't and don't do this has been asleep at the wheel for the past few decades.
Reading the vaccine requirements for Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock and media accounts that advise the child that died was unvaccinated, in the ER and exposed to a child with measles strongly suggests that your scenario is exactly what happened. The folks at Covenant are still requiring the CV jab should tell you all you need to know.
Do you have a copy/link to the vaccine requirements for Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock including the part about the CV jab?
As was the case during the Covid Operation one's "official vaccination status" is rather fungible. The MMR is a two dose regimen and a child can be, and usually is considered 'unvaccinated' until that second dose. 'Unknown status' is also considered 'unvaccinated'.
It is also the case that the "measles" is not a set of clearly defined symptoms and your 'vaccination status' can determine the diagnosis.
A “measles-like rash”, for instance, in a vaccinated child will likely be called "measles" in an unvaxxed child but called something else, Roseola e.g., in a vaccinated child.
This is a classic pharma ploy to protect the vaccine narrative.
Well this article makes me nervous about RFK Jr. and his ability to keep us safe from vaccines that hurt us. Also tell the public the truth of how and where the jabs are created and that they can shed live virus’s to non vaccinated. People need to have informed consent. I’m disappointed. 😔
I’m surprised and annoyed Lora. I had a lot of faith in RFK Jr. and now I’m just not sure! We have so much to correct in healthcare but I truly believed he’d work hard to keep us all safe, especially americas children. I’m watching. 👁️👁️
Yes I heard him say In an early interview that he didn’t want to president he just wants the vaccine and the problems with them brought to the front line . I don’t trust Trump all the way either the words warped speed just keep coming out of his mouth with no regret
Part of the American mandate wa get this garbage off the markets h! Yet here still sit
I’m skeptical but think time will tell. RFK Jr. has been trying to fight for safe vaccines for so long, I’m thinking he may have to say things now so he can march ahead later. As far as trump and warp speed, he has a tough time admitting he was wrong, but we know he had bad advice from his team like Fauci, Birx , Boulos, etc. I am willing to accept his admission of that. Then we have to stop all mRNA technology as it’s never proven to be safe. It’s been around for decades and not used before Covid. Pfizer’s mRNA Covid gene therapy murdered my husband, so it’s very personal to me. I know others too. Many are injured. This needs to be all over the media, but I don’t see it yet.
Mr. Kennedy seems to believe sterilization and permanent disability are preferable to a temporary rash and a slight fever for a week or so. O'righty then...
"Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left."
RFK, jr did say, "Vaccination is a personal CHOICE." Among other things that go against what every Secretary of the Department of HHS has said, in support of the role nutrition plays in preventing contagious disease, as well as chronic disease.
As much of a departure from the total promotion of vaccines, and the "'measles is a deadly disease" narrative of both the health agencies and the Medical Industrial Complex Kennedy's statement at HHS was... I also wish he had been bolder in him statements in support of our right to 'fully informed consent'.
Both M-M-R II and PRIORIX acknowledge they do not guarantee protection for all individuals, with documented cases of measles-, mumps-, and rubella-like illnesses post-vaccination. Mumps immunity is particularly weak, with frequent outbreaks in fully vaccinated individuals due to waning effectiveness. Both vaccines rely on antibody responses rather than real-world protection data, and non-inferiority studies do not confirm long-term effectiveness. Post-marketing reports and declining immunity over time further challenge the assumption that these vaccines provide lasting, reliable protection.
There are two MMR vaccines available for use in the United States, M-M-R II and PRIORIX.
M-M-R-II (Merck) licensed based on a trial with no placebo control & 42 days of safety review after injection in a trial with a total of only 834 children of which a third developed gastrointestinal issues and a third respiratory issues.This deficient underpowered, unblinded, and non-randomized trial is unsurprisingly not even listed in the safety section of M-M-R-II’s package insert. The original MMR’s clinical trial was similarly deficient and also showed a high and concerning rate of gastrointestinal, respiratory and other issues as compared to the small untreated control group.
Priorix (GSK) licensed based on trials with no placebo control (M-M-R-II used as the control) & 6 months of safety review after injection in which both vaccine groups had a high rate of serious adverse events, emergency room visits, and new onset of chronic diseases- e.g., autoimmune disorders, asthma, type I diabetes, vasculitis, celiac disease, thrombocytopenia, and allergies.
Alright, how do I say this? While there is measles vaccine failure, there is no denying that the vaccine reduced measles cases from 500,000-per-year to fluctuating yearly numbers as low as 37 and as high as 1,274. The data is clear. Just as it's clear that measles had become a benign disease that only killed close to 0% of the population by the time the measles vaccine arrived.
To repeat myself:
- Sanitation and better conditions turned measles into a benign infection (with rare exceptions) (Measles MORTALITY or number of deaths was close to zero by the 1960s and measles MORBIDITY or number of cases was 500,000+ per year.)
- The vaccine arrived, but no one needed it because natural immunity was working well and children even thrived and had growth spurts after having the measles. The vaccine arrived, and measles started to disappear. Measles MORBIDITY became as low as 37 cases per year while MORTALITY continued to be virtually zero.
The issue is NOT that the MMR doesn't work. The issue is that it can hurt some children. The issue is that parents and individuals must have all the information and the freedom to decide for themselves. One-sided cherrypicking only hurts our camp.
Also, we can't say that the measles vaccine doesn't prevent infection just like the Covid injection doesn't prevent infection because that would be shooting ourselves on the foot on the issue that the Covid injection is NOT a vaccine because vaccines are supposed to PREVENT infection, which the MMR does for the most part with some failure, and the public should know these nuances and differences.
So this is what Kennedy is trying to fix. This one-sided rhetoric that has only hurt us.
-Natural immunity from actually getting and recovering from measles is more effective, and typically lifelong, than immunity than vaccination.
-Passive immunity transferred to infants through breastmilk from mothers who had measles protects infants from measles during the most vulnerable stage of their lives, before the infant's immune system develops.
-The CDC labels 3 cases an 'outbreak' of measles'.
-Measles vaccines CAUSE measles outbreaks, because they contain modified live viruses / live attenuated (weakened) viruses (LAV) which recipients shed for weeks after being vaccinated. The outbreak in Tx. immediately followed a free measles vaccine program promoted there.
-For many years, most, if not all the measles outbreaks in the US have been 'vaccine strain' measles. 'Wild' strain measles was supposedly eradicated, and 'vaccine strain' measles outbreaks have long been too sporadic & localized to provide the opportunity for widespread natural immunity.
-What percent of the currently reported measles cases are 'vaccine strain'?
-If not all the current cases are 'vaccine strain', where did the other strain(s) come from?
-The case fatality rate from 1953 to 1962 of 1 in 1,205 cases is almost certainly too high, as parents did not always take their children to the doctor for what was known then to be a mild childhood illness, so cases which did not lead to hospitalization or death were often not counted.
-The relative risk of injury or death post measles vaccination versus getting measles. Data on risk of injury or death after receiving a measles vaccine, MMR, could be obtained from medical records.
This highlight the fact that all the consequences of vaccination may not be known for years, even decades.
And- No vaccine has been adequately tested for long-term safety & effectiveness against a true placebo like saline- instead of against other vaccines, or injections of toxic adjuvants (added to most vaccines to increase immune response). Most physicians seem unaware of this.
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Questions I would ask RFK, Jr.:
-What clinical differences if any, are there between 'wild' and 'vaccine stain' measles?
-Did the child who died have 'vaccine strain' or 'wild' type measles?
-Did the deceased child have co-morbidities?
-Is the 'vaccine strain' of measles one strain, or are there more than one?
-Is/are the 'vaccine strain/s' more pathogenic or more lethal than the 'wild' stain of measles that essentially every American used to get?
-What treatment(s) did the decease child receive? Were clinically proven doses of Vit A administered?
-If "community immunity" is important, wouldn't it make more sense to quarantine the vulnerable who cannot get the MMR vaccine "due to medical reasons", and allow - even encourage - the spread of measles among the rest of the population, so they can acquire lifelong, robust immunity? Wouldn't this be more effective, and likely less risky, than promoting measles vaccination?
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Granted, some of this information was not available when RFKjr made his statement, and may not be now.
What RFK,Jr. said that is totally different from HHS & CDC statements and advice for decades:
-"Vaccination is a personal CHOICE."
-Saying that there is a responsibility of healthcare professionals, policymakers, and politicians
to "ensure(ing) that accurate information about vaccine safety and efficacy is disseminated" , instead of just repeating the marketing line, 'they're safe and effective'.
-Recommending a VITAMIN to help treat disease. "While.there is no approved antiviral (drug) for those who may be infected, (the) CDC has recently updated their recommendation supporting administration of vitamin A under the supervision of a physician for those with mild, moderate, and severe infection. Studies have found that vitamin A can dramatically reduce measles mortality.."
-"Tens of thousands died WITH, or of, measles annually in 19th Century America. By 1960 - before the vaccine’s introduction - improvements in sanitation and nutrition had eliminated 98% of measles deaths." This fact directly contradicts the medical industry and agencies mantra that 'vaccines save us from measles. And violates former HHS & CC policy to avoid anything that would reduce vaccine uptake.
-Promoted NUTRITION for prevention of contagious disease! "Good nutrition remains a best defense against most chronic and infectious illnesses."
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What I wish RFK, Jr. had said:
-No vaccine currently on the CDC's 'Recommended childhood vaccine schedule' was ever properly tested against a true placebo for long-term safety or effectiveness.
-The entire model of injecting diseases, or parts of disease-causing pathogens, or genetic
instructions for part of a pathogen - along with toxic metals (aluminum or mercury), and a number of other chemicals and contaminants - into human bodies, into children, even newborn babies - is based on very little actual science, and may never be safe.
-Vaccine manufacturers got immunity from legal liability BECAUSE they claim lawsuits for injury & deaths caused by vaccines was putting them out of business. When asked why they did not make vaccines safer, the manufacturers said, "Vaccines are unavoidably unsafe."
As I recall, the measles virus was detected in the urine of MMR vaccine recipients, but yes it's the same idea.
Like measles, polio outbreaks an epidemics have followed polio vaccination campaigns. Measles is said to spread via droplet from our respirtory system but polio is different:
Exceedingly disapppointing, but not surprising....
But a careful reading of the piece does reveal an emphasis on these points:
—Measles is rarely deadly. Vanishingly rarely.
—By 1960, 98% of alleged measles deaths were conquered by sanitation and nutrition
—Vitamin A prevents measles. (This will set off the anti-Vitamin A factions.)
—Vaccination is a personal choice for parents
—Vaccines should never be forced or mandated
—He’s taking the situation seriously, etc.
This is what I find to be the core statement of the piece:
"But anybody who wants to persuade their followers that they were right to distrust him, is free to do that.
What I see is the needle moved a little bit, toward a holistic view of how disease happens. In all my years of being caught in this nasty, deadly morass, this war, I’ve never seen that from a public health official. '
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/rfk-jr-responds-to-murdoch-media?r=12vcal&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
I had measles and it was a mere rash. You are so right Dennis!
A fever usually accompanies the rash, and often a runny nose as well, but yes, measles is a mild childhood disease. When measles vaccines were first introduced, many medical experts and physicians objected, since it was 'a mild childhood disease'.
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Del Bigtree shares more measles facts on The Highwire-
https://rumble.com/v6pwpn8-del-dispels-misinformation-about-measles.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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Measles can be more serious in adults who never had measles as children, and don't have the lifetime immunity that actually getting and recovering from measles confers. Since measles can cause birth defects when expectant mothers who are not immune get the disease during pregnancy, this is a concern- eliminated by allowing children to experience the normal childhood diseases.
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Some small percent of people will die, 'with' if not 'from' measles, and every preventable death is a tragedy. Yet the vaccines kill and injure people, too. Del Bigtree explains that there are other benefits to people getting and recovering from measles- including a significantly lower rate of cardio-vascular disease (heart attack, stoke) - the # 1 killer in the US - than those who never got measles.
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See the link above for details, with references included.
We need to subscribe and hear from multiple reviewers to avoid panic-reactions driven by headlines - headlines designed to produce panic-reactions.
Absolutely! One-size-fits-all public health diktats has harmed many people.
Well said. People are freaking out at the article, but Kennedy is just speaking the truth—the complete truth, and not just what fits his agenda. What a breath of fresh air!
Celia is making excuses for someone she has fawned over for years.
Kennedy's op-ed was grossly irresponsible (that's being charitable) as many facts are still rolling in about the child's death in Texas and as anyone with half a brain already knew the "official" story is a pack of lies.
There was no measles death nor is there any outbreak. It's the Pharma lie machine using the same playbook of fear-mongering that they have used for decades.
You really have to have a faulty immune system or some chronic disease coupled with a bad medical system and inept care to die of measles. I think you are on target with your take on this. We should all be suspicious when it comes to what we hear about vaccines. How quickly we forget.
What happened to the safety aspect of the vaccines? Thought he was going to look into that. Sounds like more of the same to me
They just had a lot of free vaccines given and now all of these cases in Texas all in the same area. Safe huh
One of the problems is vaccine shedding.
Same with the covid jab
How many people get sick because of shedding?
How do you know who has received any vaccine?
I sat next to person who had received the covid jab the previous day and I was sick as a dog the next day.
I did not know he received the covid jab
As my wife says we leave our cave so little now just to avoid people, it borders on ridiculous, but I guess as long as needed deliveries never stop we can stay in our own little world.
Yes! All the things left out by the MAHA critics. Thank for saving me the trouble of enumerating them.
He isn't claiming they are safe.
I’ll ditch it - bitchy snark from the peanut gallery highly unlikely to have put herself on the line as others of greater stature have. Back to kindergarten P. B. M.
Not good at all.....come on bobby......stop the poison jabs
More of the same
Different people putting different spin on the same ol shit
If this is what RFK jr is going to do well then we all lose
Sick and tired of the swamp
The swamp will never be drained
Fellow pessimist. I agree.
I am an optimist
It appears since Trump was elected, he is funding mRna in his AI news conference
Trump did NOT claw back money sent to (I think moderna) just days before he was sworn in
Where are the epstein, JFK, MLK files?
Since day 1 of RFK jr getting sworn in, what has he done??
Now this
Yes I am becoming a pessimist and skeptic that WE the people are never going to have a govt truly for the people, it is all about power and money
As an admitted pessimist, I have to say it's always been about power and money. People quote George Carlin a lot, rightly so. "It's a big club and you ain't in it."
I don't think it's all that big, but it is a club.
The club is apparently HUGE, or they wouldn't have been able to pull off the COVID psyop across the entire planet. . . .
like
Here's a likely scenario.
Kid comes in w/pneumonia/RSV diagnosis has allergic reactions to drugs and/or vaccines given in hospital that worsen respiratory issues- related rashes are misdiagnosed as measles.
"She died from measles" claim is the cover-up for the treatment mistakes doctors/nurses made that killed the child. This lie not only gets the doctors/hospital/medical system off the hook but serves as a valuable PR tool for the vaxx industry.
Anyone who thinks they wouldn't and don't do this has been asleep at the wheel for the past few decades.
Reading the vaccine requirements for Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock and media accounts that advise the child that died was unvaccinated, in the ER and exposed to a child with measles strongly suggests that your scenario is exactly what happened. The folks at Covenant are still requiring the CV jab should tell you all you need to know.
Do you have a copy/link to the vaccine requirements for Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock including the part about the CV jab?
As was the case during the Covid Operation one's "official vaccination status" is rather fungible. The MMR is a two dose regimen and a child can be, and usually is considered 'unvaccinated' until that second dose. 'Unknown status' is also considered 'unvaccinated'.
It is also the case that the "measles" is not a set of clearly defined symptoms and your 'vaccination status' can determine the diagnosis.
A “measles-like rash”, for instance, in a vaccinated child will likely be called "measles" in an unvaxxed child but called something else, Roseola e.g., in a vaccinated child.
This is a classic pharma ploy to protect the vaccine narrative.
The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves. Vladimir Lenin.
Trust in government, already on life support, died today.
It is a great day.
Now it is time to start taking care of ourselves, and our neighbours.
https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/rethinking-how-we-measure-immunity
... using measles as an example
Well this article makes me nervous about RFK Jr. and his ability to keep us safe from vaccines that hurt us. Also tell the public the truth of how and where the jabs are created and that they can shed live virus’s to non vaccinated. People need to have informed consent. I’m disappointed. 😔
You should be if you notice he hasn’t brought any vaccine talk since he joined trumps team ! It all stopped
I’m surprised and annoyed Lora. I had a lot of faith in RFK Jr. and now I’m just not sure! We have so much to correct in healthcare but I truly believed he’d work hard to keep us all safe, especially americas children. I’m watching. 👁️👁️
Yes I heard him say In an early interview that he didn’t want to president he just wants the vaccine and the problems with them brought to the front line . I don’t trust Trump all the way either the words warped speed just keep coming out of his mouth with no regret
Part of the American mandate wa get this garbage off the markets h! Yet here still sit
I’m skeptical but think time will tell. RFK Jr. has been trying to fight for safe vaccines for so long, I’m thinking he may have to say things now so he can march ahead later. As far as trump and warp speed, he has a tough time admitting he was wrong, but we know he had bad advice from his team like Fauci, Birx , Boulos, etc. I am willing to accept his admission of that. Then we have to stop all mRNA technology as it’s never proven to be safe. It’s been around for decades and not used before Covid. Pfizer’s mRNA Covid gene therapy murdered my husband, so it’s very personal to me. I know others too. Many are injured. This needs to be all over the media, but I don’t see it yet.
What’s with his flip flopping on the Vax’s.. stay the course BK
Mr. Kennedy seems to believe sterilization and permanent disability are preferable to a temporary rash and a slight fever for a week or so. O'righty then...
"Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left."
- Aldous Huxley - (July 26, 1894 - November 22, 1963)
Great quote by Huxley. Thank for sharing it.
RFK, jr did say, "Vaccination is a personal CHOICE." Among other things that go against what every Secretary of the Department of HHS has said, in support of the role nutrition plays in preventing contagious disease, as well as chronic disease.
As much of a departure from the total promotion of vaccines, and the "'measles is a deadly disease" narrative of both the health agencies and the Medical Industrial Complex Kennedy's statement at HHS was... I also wish he had been bolder in him statements in support of our right to 'fully informed consent'.
Are you saying that the MMR, like the Covid vaccine, doesn't prevent infection?
Both M-M-R II and PRIORIX acknowledge they do not guarantee protection for all individuals, with documented cases of measles-, mumps-, and rubella-like illnesses post-vaccination. Mumps immunity is particularly weak, with frequent outbreaks in fully vaccinated individuals due to waning effectiveness. Both vaccines rely on antibody responses rather than real-world protection data, and non-inferiority studies do not confirm long-term effectiveness. Post-marketing reports and declining immunity over time further challenge the assumption that these vaccines provide lasting, reliable protection.
https://www.fda.gov/media/158941/download?attachment
https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf
There are two MMR vaccines available for use in the United States, M-M-R II and PRIORIX.
M-M-R-II (Merck) licensed based on a trial with no placebo control & 42 days of safety review after injection in a trial with a total of only 834 children of which a third developed gastrointestinal issues and a third respiratory issues.This deficient underpowered, unblinded, and non-randomized trial is unsurprisingly not even listed in the safety section of M-M-R-II’s package insert. The original MMR’s clinical trial was similarly deficient and also showed a high and concerning rate of gastrointestinal, respiratory and other issues as compared to the small untreated control group.
Priorix (GSK) licensed based on trials with no placebo control (M-M-R-II used as the control) & 6 months of safety review after injection in which both vaccine groups had a high rate of serious adverse events, emergency room visits, and new onset of chronic diseases- e.g., autoimmune disorders, asthma, type I diabetes, vasculitis, celiac disease, thrombocytopenia, and allergies.
Alright, how do I say this? While there is measles vaccine failure, there is no denying that the vaccine reduced measles cases from 500,000-per-year to fluctuating yearly numbers as low as 37 and as high as 1,274. The data is clear. Just as it's clear that measles had become a benign disease that only killed close to 0% of the population by the time the measles vaccine arrived.
To repeat myself:
- Sanitation and better conditions turned measles into a benign infection (with rare exceptions) (Measles MORTALITY or number of deaths was close to zero by the 1960s and measles MORBIDITY or number of cases was 500,000+ per year.)
- The vaccine arrived, but no one needed it because natural immunity was working well and children even thrived and had growth spurts after having the measles. The vaccine arrived, and measles started to disappear. Measles MORBIDITY became as low as 37 cases per year while MORTALITY continued to be virtually zero.
The issue is NOT that the MMR doesn't work. The issue is that it can hurt some children. The issue is that parents and individuals must have all the information and the freedom to decide for themselves. One-sided cherrypicking only hurts our camp.
Also, we can't say that the measles vaccine doesn't prevent infection just like the Covid injection doesn't prevent infection because that would be shooting ourselves on the foot on the issue that the Covid injection is NOT a vaccine because vaccines are supposed to PREVENT infection, which the MMR does for the most part with some failure, and the public should know these nuances and differences.
So this is what Kennedy is trying to fix. This one-sided rhetoric that has only hurt us.
Bobby throwing his supporters under the bus? So it seems.
This proves people will say exactly what they need to to get what THEY want
Obviously he has had everybody fooled
I wouldn’t take it, I got my immunity the old-fashioned way.
Let's take a look at what RFK Jr. actually said, shall we?
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At Trump's cabinet meeting:
https://rumble.com/v6pwobu-rfk-jr-addresses-texas-measles-outbreak.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
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HHS Secretary statement regarding the Texas measles outbreak:
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2025/03/03/measles-outbreak-call-to-action-for-all-of-us.html
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What I wish RFK, Jr. had pointed out:
-Natural immunity from actually getting and recovering from measles is more effective, and typically lifelong, than immunity than vaccination.
-Passive immunity transferred to infants through breastmilk from mothers who had measles protects infants from measles during the most vulnerable stage of their lives, before the infant's immune system develops.
-The CDC labels 3 cases an 'outbreak' of measles'.
-Measles vaccines CAUSE measles outbreaks, because they contain modified live viruses / live attenuated (weakened) viruses (LAV) which recipients shed for weeks after being vaccinated. The outbreak in Tx. immediately followed a free measles vaccine program promoted there.
-For many years, most, if not all the measles outbreaks in the US have been 'vaccine strain' measles. 'Wild' strain measles was supposedly eradicated, and 'vaccine strain' measles outbreaks have long been too sporadic & localized to provide the opportunity for widespread natural immunity.
-What percent of the currently reported measles cases are 'vaccine strain'?
-If not all the current cases are 'vaccine strain', where did the other strain(s) come from?
-The case fatality rate from 1953 to 1962 of 1 in 1,205 cases is almost certainly too high, as parents did not always take their children to the doctor for what was known then to be a mild childhood illness, so cases which did not lead to hospitalization or death were often not counted.
-The relative risk of injury or death post measles vaccination versus getting measles. Data on risk of injury or death after receiving a measles vaccine, MMR, could be obtained from medical records.
-Those who had measles experience significantly lower rates of other diseases, including the #1 cause of death in the US: https://rumble.com/v6pwpn8-del-dispels-misinformation-about-measles.html
This highlight the fact that all the consequences of vaccination may not be known for years, even decades.
And- No vaccine has been adequately tested for long-term safety & effectiveness against a true placebo like saline- instead of against other vaccines, or injections of toxic adjuvants (added to most vaccines to increase immune response). Most physicians seem unaware of this.
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Questions I would ask RFK, Jr.:
-What clinical differences if any, are there between 'wild' and 'vaccine stain' measles?
-Did the child who died have 'vaccine strain' or 'wild' type measles?
-Did the deceased child have co-morbidities?
-Is the 'vaccine strain' of measles one strain, or are there more than one?
-Is/are the 'vaccine strain/s' more pathogenic or more lethal than the 'wild' stain of measles that essentially every American used to get?
-What treatment(s) did the decease child receive? Were clinically proven doses of Vit A administered?
-If "community immunity" is important, wouldn't it make more sense to quarantine the vulnerable who cannot get the MMR vaccine "due to medical reasons", and allow - even encourage - the spread of measles among the rest of the population, so they can acquire lifelong, robust immunity? Wouldn't this be more effective, and likely less risky, than promoting measles vaccination?
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Granted, some of this information was not available when RFKjr made his statement, and may not be now.
What RFK,Jr. said that is totally different from HHS & CDC statements and advice for decades:
-"Vaccination is a personal CHOICE."
-Saying that there is a responsibility of healthcare professionals, policymakers, and politicians
to "ensure(ing) that accurate information about vaccine safety and efficacy is disseminated" , instead of just repeating the marketing line, 'they're safe and effective'.
-Recommending a VITAMIN to help treat disease. "While.there is no approved antiviral (drug) for those who may be infected, (the) CDC has recently updated their recommendation supporting administration of vitamin A under the supervision of a physician for those with mild, moderate, and severe infection. Studies have found that vitamin A can dramatically reduce measles mortality.."
-"Tens of thousands died WITH, or of, measles annually in 19th Century America. By 1960 - before the vaccine’s introduction - improvements in sanitation and nutrition had eliminated 98% of measles deaths." This fact directly contradicts the medical industry and agencies mantra that 'vaccines save us from measles. And violates former HHS & CC policy to avoid anything that would reduce vaccine uptake.
-Promoted NUTRITION for prevention of contagious disease! "Good nutrition remains a best defense against most chronic and infectious illnesses."
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What I wish RFK, Jr. had said:
-No vaccine currently on the CDC's 'Recommended childhood vaccine schedule' was ever properly tested against a true placebo for long-term safety or effectiveness.
-The entire model of injecting diseases, or parts of disease-causing pathogens, or genetic
instructions for part of a pathogen - along with toxic metals (aluminum or mercury), and a number of other chemicals and contaminants - into human bodies, into children, even newborn babies - is based on very little actual science, and may never be safe.
-Vaccine manufacturers got immunity from legal liability BECAUSE they claim lawsuits for injury & deaths caused by vaccines was putting them out of business. When asked why they did not make vaccines safer, the manufacturers said, "Vaccines are unavoidably unsafe."
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/vaccine-secrets/
https://rumble.com/v55zchi-dr.-suzanne-humphries-lecture-on-vaccines-and-health-part-1-2014.html
https://archive.org/details/the-viral-delusion-part-1-the-tragic-pseudoscience-of-sars
Which is then deficated into the the toilet then goes into the water supply just like live polio in NY happened
As I recall, the measles virus was detected in the urine of MMR vaccine recipients, but yes it's the same idea.
Like measles, polio outbreaks an epidemics have followed polio vaccination campaigns. Measles is said to spread via droplet from our respirtory system but polio is different:
https://rumble.com/v67zybs-the-polio-paradox-with-dr.-suzanne-humphries.html