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Angela jenkins's avatar

When are people going to understand, we need to take our country back? There are huge differences in states and federal government powers. Any entity that is corporate is a power within itself. We The People cannot stand against them. Even the elected official like the “top cop”, County Sheriff has been taken over by corporate entities. They voice an oath and are elected and still act in corporate manner. These people need to be accountable for whom they are accountable to.

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Hello Angela jenkins. I agree. County sheriffs are in direct violation of their oaths of office (as Constitutional Sheriffs) and should be served with writs of Quo Warranto. They should become disqualified as law enforcement officials, period. The civilian public needs to wake up and smell the burnt coffee...

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Janet Anderson's avatar

Is the UK also suffering geoengineering?

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currer's avatar

Yes I have witnessed it being done over my home by small plane. We have not seen the sky here for three years, and excessive rainfall, but with the recent spat between Trump and NATO, they appear to have stopped.

See my posts below.

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Take That Clouds's avatar

Geoengineering is not done in the UK. There were two balloon trials in 2021 and 2022.

We are plagued by chemtrail believers, though.

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Bullshit Mr. Clouds. You are an industry shill, and should be banned from comment.

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Take That Clouds's avatar

“Industry shill”? You just want to banish all voices of reason so you can live in an echo chamber. All I want is some evidence. And all I get is “just look up”, it’s pathetic…

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Strength In Unity's avatar

Since this is experimental and effects our health by law they need informed consent, right? Can’t Trump sign an executive order?

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Hello Strength In Unity. *Informed consent* to atmospheric modification has never been the case. Quoted from the page: "There are two federal laws specifically addressing weather modification. Additionally, there are 29 states plus Washington, D.C., that have some sort of weather modification policies. The problem is, for decades weather modification programs have been occurring without informed consent or public oversight." See: https://zerogeoengineering.com/2025/from-towers-to-clouds/

People all over the United States (and elsewhere) have been complaining of fatigue, head ache and muscle cramps, nausea, and sever ringing in their ears. Research Study: Starlink Satellites Spewing Radiation >>> https://zero5g.com/2025/research-study-starlink-satellites-spewing-radiation/

Duh! Hello? Let's give Elon Musk a big hand --- grenade, with the pin missing...

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Strength In Unity's avatar

Thanks for taking the time to reply and educate. There has got to be some legal loophole/s that can be addressed on both a state and federal level. I wish I had more knowledge in law. For god sakes there are 343 million US citizens vs a handful of parasitic globalists and their minions. They are destroying the earth (soil microbiome, water, atmosphere, insects, animals, mankind) while claiming they are saving the earth.

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Yes. There are Statute regarding proper reporting and enforcement, yet these Laws are being ignored by States Attorneys General in every jurisdiction. Here's one example of such Statute: 15 U.S. Code § 330b. Duties of Secretary >>> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/330b

Also: Excerpted from: 15 U.S. Code § 2606 - Imminent hazards

(f) “Imminently hazardous chemical substance or mixture” defined

“For the purposes of subsection (a), the term “imminently hazardous chemical substance or mixture” means a chemical substance or mixture which presents an imminent and unreasonable risk of serious or widespread injury to health or the environment, without consideration of costs or other nonrisk factors. Such a risk to health or the environment shall be considered imminent if it is shown that the manufacture, processing, distribution in commerce, use, or disposal of the chemical substance or mixture, or that any combination of such activities, is likely to result in such injury to health or the environment before a final rule under section 2605 of this title can protect against such risk.” [End quote]

Complete text: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/2606

Written Laws are not being enforced. Thank you for your kind reply.

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Un-silent's avatar

This bill is a joke and it does nothing to actually stop the spraying. It reminds me of the so called ban put on whaling in Japan which also excluded "research". Suddenly all of the whaling vessels had "research" written on their sides while they went on killing whales. The fact that existing contacts are unaffected is also ridiculous, nothing will change. Most likely the industry itself wrote the bill and paid off a lawmaker to sponsor it.

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Di Chez's avatar

Is it just me or should this just be wrong and not need a law to stop it?! I'm so tired of chemtrails day in and day out! Are they too stupid to realize they're spraying themselves, their families, and probably going to wind up with HORRIBLE cancers from being right in it?!

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currer's avatar

The Hidden Forces Behind Climate Engineering An Insightful Discussion with Jim Lee

https://medicaltruthpodcast.substack.com/p/the-hidden-forces-behind-climate-314

I have not watched this so cannot recommend, but may be useful.

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Take That Clouds's avatar

I was watching a session of the Agriculture & Natural Resources Committee in Tennessee earlier today. I learned that in less than one year since the Tennessee bill was passed, they have had 175 phone calls and an unspecified number of emails complaining about "chemtrails".

What a massive waste of everyone's time this is.What none of the people pushing these state bills seem to realise is that the trails people see in the sky are nothing to do with geoengineering or weather modification activities. That's the first thing that needs to be made clear in any committee debates about this: by all means ban these activities, but be aware that you will still see trails in the sky!

All these state bills seem to have very similar wording. They seem to originate from a group called Zerogeoengineering.com.

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Jon Fleetwood's avatar

Where have you successfully presented your evidence on this topic in a way that brings about the change you so passionately critique others for not bringing about?

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Take That Clouds's avatar

The burden of proof is on those who claim that this is happening. The trails in the sky look like contrails, they act like contrails, and they demonstrably come from commercial aircraft. And in the almost 28 years since the first claims about "chemtrails" were made, nobody has ever managed to demonstrate that they are not contrails.

Surely it is not for me to prove that they are exactly what they look like, it is for those who claim they are something nefarious to prove that!

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currer's avatar

Part of a letter to my MP about this written in 2023. I am in the UK.

I have twice witnessed cloud seeding operations carried out by small plane over my home XXXXXXXX. This occurred in 2023.

The chemtrails transform a bright sunny morning into an overcast cold day. The planes sprayed particulate matter in a grid pattern in a relatively small patch almost directly above my home in the centre of the visible sky on a bright warm and sunny morning . These trails did not dissipate but coalesced to form a blanket of strange cold grey cloud which then spread further outward to the horizons east and west. The entire operation took only about thirty seconds. The cloud spread out within three minutes, very rapidly. This grey artificial "cloud" covered the entire visible sky and lasted for the remainder of the day. The temperature dropped considerably as the sun's heat was being reflected back by the particulates.

I would not have believed this was possible and being done if I had not witnessed it and the effect it had. I am sure that these weather modification practices are the reason for the unusually cold and wet weather for the past couple of years.

I have heard that the planes have been taking off from small airports such as Southampton to spray over the south coast.

I have a contact in Cornwall, who has told me that these cloudseeding planes are flying in circular paths off the Cornwall coast, and the chemtrails then drift to blanket the entire UK via the dominant south westerly wind patterns. These planes usually turn their transponders off, but the ones that cannot, can be tracked and followed via internet apps, and their unusual behaviour spotted. They fly at night to do their spraying secretly, not in the daytime.

Please do what you can to investigate this and prevent it from continuing.

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currer's avatar

Please can you find out whether these operations are legal and being done with the permission of the UK government. The environmental and human health effects could be disastrous.

It is widely known among many people in XXXXX that weather modification is occurring, so there is no likelihood that this can be kept secret. It is also widely publicised via the internet and in the press that this is being done in the US, and people there are angry about it.

It seems to me that the assumption that people would assume this is due to "climate change" underestimates people's common sense. People know that they are being lied to and this is a risky strategy for our government to involve itself in.....

......My sense is that the motive is nothing to do with "climate change" but is to bankrupt our farmers using "climate change" as an excuse. The powerful international conglomerates behind this will seize our land, and then control the food supply. This is criminal activity. There are already food shortages being predicted. The winter and spring plantings have been affected as the soil is too wet and cold for crops to succeed.

There are other more probable theories as to why "climate change" is being so heavily promoted and propagandised now, and the most likely one is hegemonic control by US and western powers over the global energy economy via carbon trading systems using "global warming" as a justification. This is a geopolitical aim to substitute for the loss of petrodollar control. Gullible responses to the ostensible reasons created to conceal the geopolitical goals of powerful global financial interests will be naïve and disastrous in an MP when faced with the realities of power politics. Heavily publicised reasons are given out to the propagandised public, so that the true motive can be concealed.

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currer's avatar

Since the spat between NATO and Trump, the geoengineering appears to have stopped - the first time in three years of haze and cloud and constant rain. We have had clear blue skies and normal cloud formations for the past couple of weeks. So it looks as if this practice is coordinated by the military, as it would need to be over a country's airspace.

This recent article (12th March) in a disgusting propaganda rag called the "Guardian newspaper" reveals some disquiet about geoengineering among the top people. Of course it pretends that this is hypothetical, and not being done yet, as this must be a classified operation, but the tone shows real concern for the impact of chemical weather modification. They must be concerned about being charged with criminal liability.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/12/solar-geoengineering-uk

This is the first article in the MSM to express genuine concern so I believe there is resistance building behind the scenes among those with power. Nothing gets into the papers by mistake, information is always carefully planted in the public consciousness.

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Take That Clouds's avatar

And what did your MP say in response? I hope they told you cloud seeding isn’t done in the UK and pointed out that you were seeing boring old aircraft contrails. And then I bet you thought they were “part of the cover up”…

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currer's avatar

She neither confirmed nor denied that it was going on. These operations are classified. I have written several times and the responses are always careful not to deny geoengineering. However, they provide no information about chemicals employed, or current law regarding this practice.

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Take That Clouds's avatar

Cloud seeding does not make any visible trails in the sky, and cannot produce cloud. So how did you conclude that you saw “cloud seeding”?

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currer's avatar

Go away shill.

To John Fleetwood - many thanks for your responsible coverage of this topic. Very helpful and not as sensational as some reporting.

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Take That Clouds's avatar

Well there’s a well reasoned argument. Call anyone who asks pertinent questions a “shill” and then you can retreat to your cosy little echo chamber and not have to face up to the real world, I guess.

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

For introductory information regarding geoengineering practices and *alleged* legislative law, I highly recommend perusing all pages offered here: https://zerogeoengineering.com/

Yes, the initial page is overwhelming. Please scroll down to various article links relevant to your interests. Though I am not affiliated nor a sponsor, I find this site provides excellent background.

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Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Hello Un-silent. I agree the bill is frivolous and ineffective. Violations should be charged as *Felony* violations under clearly defined Statute Law. Fines for violation should begin at $100,000 per incident and carry cumulative penalties. Charging infringement as a Misdemeanor crime is an absurdity. These assholes are poisoning the atmosphere, period.

Monitoring of activities should be specified as both civilian and county sheriff based, with immediate arrest warrants filed within jurisdictions policed by *Constitutional sheriffs*.

Anti-geoengineering legislation was heard in Ohio, and is more clearly defined, yet monitoring and Lawful process are poorly expressed in the Ohio legislation.

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Natalie's avatar

Trump needs to address it for all the states

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