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TriTorch's avatar

What if they called for a pandemic and no one coughed?

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

they called for one and barely anyone got sick remember. I know a handful of people who got something flu-like. No one died of it. One person who had it before the jabs said it was a very mild flu, 4 days. After she got the jabs, she got it again, was very sick for a month and lost 30 pounds.

SomeDude's avatar

I had an ILI (influenza like illness) twice before the Missouri state of emergency was deactivated. I used it to get out of work for a week each time because I was ticked off at having to wear a mask (I did buy a full face p500 to make fun of everyone's paper and cloth, not that I thought it'd actually block viron sized particles.)

I told the boss if he was taking the Man's recommendations for masking he should go by the current cdc rule on waiting 5-7 days after ILI symptoms show to make sure it is not convid. and besides I was already down to 50% hours because not enough "essential workers" were able to bring in their broken apple computers for me to fix, but I was sufficiently essential to be pulled off that fat, fat early scamdemic unemployment that was higher than my full time pay.

the only convid symptoms I ever had were lower leg and foot circulatory issues (with nasty swelling at first) and some mild vertigo, and not until after physical contact with the somewhat recently injected in 2021. never in over four decades had I ever suffered circulatory problems before, so it wasn't likely lurking in wait.

I already distrusted medics before they were signing on to the Latest Greatest SafeAndEffective™, so I had to self heal. fortunately I'm already used to scanning my internals for what is and isn't working. repetitions of extra water, hot and cold cycles, elevation above and below the heart, and careful self massage (very soft as I didn't want any chunks flowing around) took down the swelling over a few hours.

a few months of nattokinase eventually reduced the neuralgia in my feet to a manageable level, though I'm pretty sure the crud isn't fully cleaned yet. I tried quercetin too the first two months but it didn't seem to matter as I wasn't so much sick as clotted up.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Glad you escaped! I read Midwestern doctor and after long hestitating started using Dmso for my recurring tension headache. To my surprise not only that, but my cramping legs relaxed too, and I was without cramps for 10 months. Recently it started again, and occasionally I have a headache (mostly with falling air pressure) and then put some from a roller. Not sure if it would work for you.

SomeDude's avatar

interesting. I have some stashed but have been leery of it as its difficult to find reliable dosage references. from what I gather it might also help my age related eye focusing muscle degeneration and/or soften the lenses

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

I use 10 drops on my food, it tastes somewhat of garlic. I also have rollers, with aloe vera, rose and lavender oil, there are more choices available. These are for skin use only - the 100 % drops can be ingested. I still use the rollers on cramped muscles, which happens quite seldom now, before I had them almost every night. And the headaches - same thing - only seem to happen when pressure drops. A quick roll on forehead and neck, and a little fatty salve to rub it on, as the product itself can itch a bit.

Bdaddy's avatar

No such thing as a p500 respirator.

Highest is a p100 which will capture 99.97% of particulates 0.3um and smaller

SomeDude's avatar

guess its a p100 then. I don't care enough about the concept to properly recall the number I suppose.

whatever it was is rated slightly better than the n95 fitted masks, but neither gets close to the micron size for viron particles. so anything short of a sealed suit with canned air is pretty much a joke for viral protection anyway.

TriTorch's avatar

I know right?

On the flu, if a picture paints a thousand words, this graph paints a million:

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zRte!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa47cea29-e162-4d4d-8b5c-226a2798042e_625x473.png

As for the gal that got sick and lost 30lbs from the stroke-poke:

“All her friends say it’s for the better

Without the vax she would be heavier”

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

She had to she was a nurse at the time. And yes, she looks much better with 30 pounds less! Even though I have been admonished not to, I keep calling it the Wuiflu.

TriTorch's avatar

Does she regret that she only had 30lbs to give to the quaxxine?

Crixcyon's avatar

If pandemics were real stemming from nature, they would be totally unpredictable. There could be decades or 100's of years in between occurrences. Or they could be so deadly as to wipe out humanity in a short time before any "vaccine" could be developed and tested. And they cannot produce a fake virus using silly gain of function as they have NO previous virus samples that are not computer invented. If you are sick with flu like symptoms, you have been poisoned and this is your body trying to recover.

Brian  Klunder's avatar

Make no mistake....

This is Biblical!

“And the light of a candle (Holy Spirit) shall shine no more at all in thee; and the

voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for

thy merchants (Big Pharma) were the great men of the earth;

for by thy sorceries (Pharmakeia) were all nations deceived.” Revelation 18:23

Source: revelation1823.net

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Learned recently that overdosing on Tylenol/acetaminophen which is not hard to do when it is in multiple products beside being pure acetaminophen as a pain pill it can produce FLU symptoms. Have never found any research to confirm this. So, if ER mis diagnoses they prescribe more acetaminophen! Sadly.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Here is my research response with AI. Acetaminophen Overdose Mimicking Flu — The Mechanism

It's absolutely accurate, and the lack of awareness around this is a genuine public health failure.

The Clinical Picture

Acetaminophen (paracetamol outside the US) toxicity unfolds in four stages, and Stage 1 — roughly the first 24 hours — is where the diagnostic trap lies:

Nausea and vomiting

Malaise, fatigue, general "wiped out" feeling

Pallor and diaphoresis (sweating)

Anorexia (loss of appetite)

Mild abdominal discomfort

That's essentially a flu-like syndrome. Patient presents feeling like death, maybe with a low-grade temp from dehydration, and if they don't mention the acetaminophen — or don't even realize how much they've taken across multiple products — the ER doc has no reason to suspect it.

Why It's So Easy to Overdose

The therapeutic ceiling is narrow. The maximum daily dose was lowered from 4,000 mg to 3,000 mg by the FDA years ago, but the labeling on many products never caught up, and most people don't read it anyway. Consider:

Extra Strength Tylenol: 500 mg per caplet. Eight in a day hits 4,000 mg.

Add NyQuil (650 mg per dose), Percocet (325–650 mg per tablet), Vicodin (300–325 mg), or any number of OTC cold/flu combos

You can blow past 4,000 mg without even realizing you're taking "the same thing"

The liver's glutathione stores get depleted, NAPQI (the toxic metabolite) builds up, and hepatocytes start dying. But the patient just feels like they have the flu.

The ER Miss

Here's the tragedy you're pointing to. If the patient shows up in Stage 1 with flu-like symptoms and no one thinks to ask about acetaminophen or run a serum level:

They get diagnosed with "viral syndrome" or "gastroenteritis"

Discharged with instructions to take... Tylenol for the fever and body aches

They go home and take more

48–72 hours later (Stage 2–3), liver enzymes skyrocket, RUQ pain hits, jaundice sets in

By the time they come back, they're in acute liver failure. The NAC (N-acetylcysteine) antidote works best within 8 hours of ingestion. Every hour after that, efficacy drops.

The Research Gap You Noticed

You're right that this isn't well-studied as a diagnostic failure pattern. There's plenty of literature on the pharmacokinetics of acetaminophen toxicity and the Rumack-Matthew nomogram for treatment decisions, but the specific phenomenon of flu-mimicry leading to iatrogenic worsening is more clinical anecdote and case-report territory than large RCTs — for obvious ethical reasons.

What does exist: case series in toxicology journals describing patients discharged from EDs with viral diagnoses who returned in fulminant hepatic failure, where retrospective history revealed massive acetaminophen ingestion from multiple sources.

Practical Takeaway

Any time someone presents with "flu" but also has access to multiple acetaminophen-containing products — especially the elderly, chronic pain patients, or anyone who's been self-medicating a bad cold for days — a serum acetaminophen level should be drawn. It's a cheap test. Missing it can cost a liver.

The fact that this isn't standard triage questioning is exactly the kind of systemic blind spot that gets people killed.

Bottom line: your understanding is correct. Acetaminophen toxicity Stage 1 looks like the flu, ERs miss it, and the treatment they prescribe makes it worse. It's not widely published in the way you'd hope, but toxicologists know it well.

janet kessler's avatar

"...and Stage 1 — roughly the first 24 hours — is where the diagnostic trap lies:" If what you wrote is true re the above statement, why in hell would anyone take more of the stuff? I've been taking 1-2 a day for YEARS for chronic back pain and have never had an issue from Tylenol. Previously, I was taking Ibuprofen which I believe destroyed my kidneys (membranous nephropathy) which have since returned to good health proven by frequent blood testing. My back cannot be 'fixed' and Tylenol helps me continue to function as a human being as nothing else is available.

Elizabeth Lucy's avatar

Thank you for this. Let me add it's not always an "overdose" that does damage. Chronic use does damage, even if below the magic number of 3000mg. Degree of damage depends on many factors. I know of a nursing home that gives an elderly woman 3,000mg every day. No informed consent, no diagnosis, no ongoing assessment of efficacy or harm. This has been going on for well over a year....

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

The health issues being created are benefiting the owner and the medical staff.

I bet if you had access, you would find that the billing to Medicare per patient is astronomical.

TnDoc's avatar

Accurate. During my practice years, I had several middel-aged adults who died sudeenly with liver failure due to acetaminophen poisoning. There is also a black box warning on the packaging in the US as a result of this known danger, but it seems to get little attention from practitioners.

Dash Gordon's avatar

Cough medicine does the same thing. Take too much and you can't stop coughing.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

Many drugs cause rebound symptoms. Not a bot.

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

You still wake up in the morning!

Thomas A Braun RPh's avatar

If the truth were known, you would learn that 1000's die each year from unintentional acetaminophen overdosing and half the liver transplants are caused by the destruction of the liver by overdosing on acetaminophen.

Dash Gordon's avatar

Are you a bot? You just reposted the same content to me that I already responded to. You also entirely missed the point of my post, that medicines designed to alleviate certain symptoms can, if abused, actually result in an expression of those symptoms. smh

Crixcyon's avatar

Fake viruses, fake HHS, fake vaccines...no thanks. Go to the devil.

Lawyerlisa's avatar

I'll bet they are so close to satan he can pinch.

Karen Bracken's avatar

So glad we have RFK Jr. as the head of HHS to expose the fraud of ALL vaccines…..PLEASE NOTE MY DEEPEST AND MOST SINCERE SARCASM

Doreene Close's avatar

wth has happened? Trump used MAHA, which got him elected. Trump has muzzled RFK, who now focuses on bread and circus parties.

Dash Gordon's avatar

Influenza mutates constantly. There is absolutely no way to predict anything about it (more or less) unless you are the ONE mutating it. It's this kind of crap that, as I near retirement, makes me completely want to become an ex-pat and put all of my savings into another government. We have completely lost control of the government. Did anyone see that a district attorney in South America who was investigating the US "drug" boat strikes and resulting torture of the survivors was murdered this week? That's where we are now.

Lawyerlisa's avatar

Turn off the news. No pandemic

Elizabeth Lucy's avatar

The darling of immunobridging is of course the antibody. The presence of antibodies is assumed to be positive. Lots of antibodies means a "strong immune response," and protection is inferred.

But what if high antibody levels mean, first and foremost, that one has been poisoned? Vaccines often have toxic or irritating ingredients in order to jack up antibodies. Any downside of antibodies is not considered. No one measures the cost of the toxicity to achieve the antibody levels.

The Covid vaccine for kids took immunobridging to new levels. A trial could not have shown protection, but they could raise antibody levels with the injection and then call it effective.

Clare Swinney's avatar

Thanks Jon. Jeremy Farrar mentioned in a talk about pandemic research, that they need the infrastructure in place beforehand to be successful... whatever that means. Bird flu pandemic preparedness planning has been going on in NZ for well over a year in central and local government. Refer: https://freenz.substack.com/p/clare-swinney-reveals-millions-in

TnDoc's avatar

Stunning. So thankful the MAHA folks are protecting Humankind.

Doreene Close's avatar

Heartbreaking. MAHA has become a tragedy!

Jill Herendeen's avatar

"Flu" is a body de-toxing from too much EMF/RF exposure. So a sudden increase in ppl having "flu" indicates--unless there's an unusual astronomical event that hikes EMFs/RFs way higher than normal, like too many solar flares or a comet passing way too close to earth--then someone is rolling out 6G or possibly chem-trailing whatever toxin it is that they put in "flu" shots. Being able to predict a "pandemic" argues for a manmade source.

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